{"id":3519,"date":"2020-01-23T10:44:01","date_gmt":"2020-01-23T10:44:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wsl.evdpl.com\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=3519"},"modified":"2024-12-10T16:13:26","modified_gmt":"2024-12-10T16:13:26","slug":"announcing-the-new-future-shop-podcast-with-wsl","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wslstrategicretail.com\/podcast\/announcing-the-new-future-shop-podcast-with-wsl\/","title":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s Not About Amazon with Wendy Liebmann and Candace Corlett | EP 01"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[vc_row full_width=&#8221;stretch_row_content_no_spaces&#8221; el_class=&#8221;single-post-content&#8221;][vc_column width=&#8221;2\/3&#8243; el_class=&#8221;aside&#8221;][vc_column_text]<em>We are very excited to announce that the <a href=\"https:\/\/wslstrategicretail.com\/podcasts\/\">Future Shop Podcast<\/a> with WSL is officially live across the web! Learn more about it here:<\/em><\/p>\n<h2>What\u2019s the Future Shop Podcast with WSL all about?<\/h2>\n<p>Our podcast\u00a0focuses on <strong>how shoppers are transforming retail and what you need to do about it.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Retail strategist and shopping futurist <a href=\"https:\/\/wslstrategicretail.com\/about-us\/#OurTeam\">Wendy Liebmann<\/a> shares her passionate, unvarnished shopper-centric view of where retail is headed. She interviews experts in retail, marketing, insights, design, education, and more. And she and the WSL team regularly share excerpts from WSL\u2019s latest proprietary shopper research about what\u2019s coming next.<\/p>\n<p>The Future Shop Podcast is a no-holes barred view of what shoppers want, what you need to deliver, who\u2019s getting it right, and who\u2019s getting it wrong. And why. In this fast and furious view you will begin to understand how to anticipate the future that\u2019s emerging right under your nose.<\/p>\n<p>WSL Strategic Retail is a leader in shopper insights and retail strategy. It helps clients around the world anticipate change in order to grow in the near and longer term. It is recognized for its ground-breaking How America Shops\u00ae and How the World Shops research.<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #e31837;\">Episode 01: It\u2019s Not About Amazon<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/wslstrategicretail.com\/podcast\/announcing-the-new-future-shop-podcast-with-wsl\/\">In this episode<\/a>,<\/strong> Wendy Liebmann, CEO &amp; Chief Shopper, interviews Candace Corlett, president of WSL, about how companies have been preoccupied with Amazon. They talk about how the shopper, not Amazon, has been disrupting the retail world. And that Amazon is merely the enabler of what shoppers want. They share highlights from WSL\u2019s latest How America Shops\u00ae research and tell you how to reframe your thinking.<\/p>\n<p><img style=\"width: 900px;\" src=\"https:\/\/wsl.evdpl.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/behind-podcast01.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Don\u2019t miss upcoming episodes, stay up-to-date\u00a0by visiting the <a href=\"https:\/\/sil.wslstrategicretail.com\/reports#MatchAllWords=False&amp;cat8=253\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">WSL Shopper Insights Library<\/a>,\u00a0or our <a href=\"https:\/\/futureshopwithwsl.buzzsprout.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Podcast page.<\/a><\/strong>[\/vc_column_text][vc_tta_accordion active_section=&#8221;&#8221; collapsible_all=&#8221;true&#8221; el_class=&#8221;transcript&#8221;][vc_tta_section title=&#8221;Transcript&#8221; tab_id=&#8221;1651842200101-f3fc05d9-de66&#8243;][vc_column_text]<span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small>Hello, I\u2019m Wendy Liebmann, I\u2019m the CEO of WSL Strategic Retail and I am here with my business partner and partner in crime, Candace Corlett, who heads up all our shopper research.<\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small><em>Hello Wendy, nice to be with you again today.<\/em><\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small>And you too, as always.<\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small>So, here\u2019s the thing, you know, most of who live in the retail and brand world have been spending an awful amount of time about retail being in turmoil. And it is in turmoil because of the likes of Amazon, really, Amazon has changed the world. And that\u2019s true. But, the fact of the matter is, it\u2019s a diversion. It\u2019s not the only thing that has changed the world. The real thing that has changed the world, is the shopper and the shopper\u2019s life. And one of the things that has been very clear to us over the last five or six years of studying shoppers across this country and around the world is that something much more fundamental has happened. Shoppers today are incredibly stressed, people are incredibly stressed. Life is incredibly hectic. What digital has done, Amazon aside, has just made life faster. So, everything we are beginning to see is really driven by that. So, what we\u2019re going to talk about today is just that and how you need to refocus your attention.<\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small>So, I am here with my business partner and partner in crime, Candace Corlett who spends all her time studying how America shops. A little bit about me, I have been passionate about retail and shopping for about thirty years growing up in the bush in Australia. Yes, there was retail in the bush in Australia. My background is a mix of marketing and research and retail and all of that comes together in this absolute passion I have for understanding where retail is headed whether it\u2019s physical or digital or what our clients around the world need to do in order to engage with shoppers. The passion I have is how do you stay engaged with your shoppers all day every day. How do you understand their lives and how that impacts what they want to buy and how they want to spend and if you stay close to shoppers, you will be able to see the future and you\u2019ll be able to grow and build extraordinary businesses. But, you\u2019ve got to stay close to them. And that\u2019s what we do at WSL.<\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small>My name is Wendy Liebmann, my title is CEO and Chief Shopper and that\u2019s exactly why.<\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small>Candace, you know, there are two or three things here that really, if we could shake our clients and some friends of the family we would shake and say, \u201cIt\u2019s not about Amazon, stupid, it\u2019s about the shopper\u2019s life\u201d, right?<\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small><em>It is about the shopper\u2019s life and all of our listeners out there, are shoppers who are out there living life and they will see themselves in the profile that we see in our How America Shops studies. People have become frenetically busy. There are many more social network commitments to meet, many more activities, the workday has expanded from 9-5, kids have more activities, there\u2019s always another thing on Pinterest to be trying to execute, we have made our lives extremely frenetic. The result has been like you said, stress, the number one obstacle to being a healthy person is stress. It is not surprising that people have now said, 60% have now said, \u201cto make my life less stressful, I have to shop faster.\u201d And that\u2019s what our clients have to think about. I have to shop faster because I want to be healthier because I have so many other things I have to be doing. So, how are you going to help me do that?<\/em><\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small>It\u2019s interesting you say that, three or four years ago, our study we called buying happiness, and it was this point in which we saw very clearly, American shoppers had a completely different set of values. It was about being more financially responsible, it was about taking the stress out of their lives and having this greater sense of well being. That imperative, some of our clients think, woah, they\u2019ve been talking about this for a long number of years but it has changed everything. And this notion about fast and easy is driving all of the future of retail. And yet, so many companies are not even paying attention to it.\u00a0<\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small><em>That\u2019s right, they are still thinking, efficient shopping means having a list and going once a week and filling that list but that\u2019s not the way that happens. There\u2019s a whole new definition of efficiency that may not seem efficient to use on the surface but, it is working for shoppers. And it means I grab everything I need, wherever I see it. So, if I see great food for dinner at the front of the drug store, I\u2019m going to take it. I can get all of my cleaning and home things at the home depot when I go in to buy a light fixture on Saturday, I grab it wherever I see it. That\u2019s one new efficiency. I don\u2019t necessarily take a quick trip back to the store if I forget something. Most things can wait until six hours from now or until tomorrow. And people are always counting the minutes.<\/em><\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small>You know, it is interesting you say that because I remember some work we did a few years ago for a retailer and we came up with the term \u201cAlways Already\u201d.\u00a0 And it was this notion, they couldn\u2019t believe, they were so focused on well yes we know people are so busy and they are busy families so we\u2019re going to give them everything under one roof and save them a trip, right? And what we saw really quickly and they were kind of confused by was the fact that actually, people would stop and make more trips wherever they happen to be, pick up whatever they happen to need because they were there. Always all ready and willing to buy.<\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small><em>And they\u2019re not counting it as a trip. That\u2019s an old word. It\u2019s not a trip, it\u2019s a grab and go.<\/em><\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small>Right, we talked about that. We live in a grab and go world. So, if I\u2019m a company and i\u2019m sitting there saying I created this fabulous product or this fabulous retail experience, if you\u2019re not addressing this urgency to save time, and take stress out of the moment then the shoppers not even considering you at this point. It seems there\u2019s this massive imperative to change, you had mentioned 60% of people saying I\u2019m trying to get everything and my shopping done fast so I have time for other things. And this notion of buying things wherever I am, that puts retail on its head, right? Wherever I am could be on the ether or it could be on a street corner, it could be in a car wash to pick up a lip balm or greeting cards. It could be anywhere, so that landscape is so diverse. It&#8217;s so accessible that most of these big companies are not thinking this way. They\u2019re still thinking about food, drug, mass, dollar, department store. They don\u2019t understand that shoppers are willing to buy things wherever they happen to be to get it off their list right now.\u00a0<\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small><em>That\u2019s right. And we do see some shining stars emerging in retail. Where large retailers are stepping back and saying \u201cwait, I\u2019ve lost entire categories to the grab and go mindset, people are picking it up anywhere even though I promise everyday low prices. Walmart is a good example of a retailer that is experimenting with services that are extremely contrary to retail. I\u2019m going to set up an efficient shopping service where you never even have to come into the store. And they\u2019re advertising their buy it online and come to the store parking lot to pick it up and they\u2019re promoting that. It\u2019s contrary to what you would think of as core retail.<\/em><\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small>It\u2019s interesting you say that because retail used to be all about location, location, location. And the fact of the matter is that most companies that are listening to this have to think about is well, maybe a retailer used to grow because you have 8,000 stores but the fact of the matter is, that\u2019s going to go away and really fast. Retailers are already starting to add services in their stores that used to be an aisle. They\u2019re trying to differentiate by bringing in small, exclusive brands into their space to give people a reason to come into their store. But, that retail structure that most of us have grown up with of stores on every corner, they\u2019re all going to disappear, really, really fast. Now, I\u2019m not talking about in five minutes, but we already see the stores closing. The drama and urgency of that is really critical for people to understand. That isn\u2019t five years from now, that\u2019s more like five months from now.\u00a0<\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small><em>Oh, we\u2019re seeing that in test stores and being rolled out to thousands of stores already. I\u2019m not getting the shopper in the store to get them to walk to the back of the store to find the baby diapers, maybe I\u2019ll get them in after they pick up their groceries if they want an eye exam or they have to get their children\u2019s exams to play sports. I\u2019m going to offer the types of services that people need quickly.<\/em><\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small>So, one of the ways to look at this, for anybody listening, is to be some of the retail that we think is already getting this. From the new Aldi formats to Wegman\u2019s and their latest supermarket format from Walmart with their new health centers from CVS with their health hubs all of those things that the retailers are experimenting with. If you want to see more of that you can come to our website where you\u2019ll be exposed to what all of those places look like? I\u2019ve just rattled off five but there are probably another fifteen or twenty retailers we can think about changing these things, in some cases, while people sleep. There is an urgency of that, so, if we think about what should the listeners, clients and friends of family do about this? It seems to be the imperative in everything they do from product development to packaging to advertising to communication, social, digital, everything! They have to begin with fast, they have to imagine how they can make the shopper&#8217;s life easier. Get it off your list so they have time for other things, which could include, browsing, but that\u2019s not the first thing, right?\u00a0<\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small><em>Right, they\u2019re not browsing for the commodity essentials. Our manufacturers are included in this as well like we said earlier in our chat here, don\u2019t count on the big displays being where people will discover you. How will you be front and center online before they even get to the store? Or, ordering it to the store and going to the store to pick it up. Where are you going to intercept them, where are you going to gain recognition?\u00a0<\/em><\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><small><span style=\"color: #666666;\">So here\u2019s the thing then, right? We\u2019ve talked about this imperative of making shopping easier and less stressful to save time for other things they want to do in their lives. What we know from the examples we\u2019ve eluded to and many more, companies that are doing things to address this are all retailers! Retailers are getting this, yet, for all of you manufacturers out there, you are all still doing things the same way you have always done them. And that\u2019s no longer acceptable. So, the imperative here is that what you really need to be doing is bringing all of the constituent partners into the room and you need to be talking about how you can deliver on products that are faster, less stressful, easier for shoppers to use, easier for shoppers to buy and seen in a way that is a very good value. If you bring your R&amp;D people, your packaging people, your merchandising people, your display people, your shopper marketing people into a room, and look at what you\u2019re doing through that lens, then you will be able to tackle this huge shift that Candace was talking about in terms of the way people live their lives. If you don\u2019t do that, then the opportunity is really not yours anymore. That\u2019s where success will come. That\u2019s what the imperative is, it\u2019s fast and it\u2019s about value and it\u2019s about taking the stress out of shoppers&#8217; lives. That\u2019s what you need to be thinking about today and tomorrow. There is so much more on this topic that you can easily access from us, you can go onto our website at <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wslstrategicretail.com\"><span style=\"color: #e31837;\">www.wslstrategicretail.com<\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #666666;\">, there you can access free trend alerts on this topic and others. If you\u2019re a client of ours you can access the Shopper Insights Library there are full complete reports on this topic of fast. And if you ever want to browse through our website you will learn all you need to know about us and about retail and about shoppers. Go ahead and look and if you need any more in-depth information, don\u2019t hesitate to give us a call at 212-924-7780 or email us at <\/span><a href=\"mailto:info@wslstrategicretail.com\"><span style=\"color: #e31837;\">info@wslstrategicretail.com<\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #666666;\">, or, just raise a flag, we\u2019ll find you.<\/span><\/small><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small>So, Candace, thank you for sharing as always.<\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small><em>Oh, you\u2019re welcome.<\/em><\/small><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666666;\"><small>Always sharing your shopper thoughts. It\u2019s an urgent and exciting time and I think you\u2019ve really set the stage for that. 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